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回覆 (1542): Idle wheelers
 
>With the second source for comparison, I began to realize that the cartridge should not be the only one to blame. …..do keep a respectable CD player at hand even if you are a die-hard analogue bigot<  
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I suppose having more than one TT set ups could serve the same purpose :-)  
 
 
thekong
11-11-30
17:56:25
回覆 (1541): Idle wheelers
Master Limage,  
 
Your CD player lasted 23 years ? holy shit ! no new laser head ? they obviously did not know how to make them back then !  
 
the reality is that if you have lots of cartridges, its beyond a worry if they wear away ! right ? 8^)
daiwok
11-11-30
17:36:08
回覆 (1540): Idle wheelers
 
 
The National turntable for 34 years  
Audiocraft arm 32 years  
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The equipment that I hang on for the longest time is the 2 wood stools from the Correctional Services which I use as speaker stands since 1979, the same one that limage has which I think is probably older than mine.  
 
 
 
cpsjj
11-11-30
17:29:10
回覆 (1540): Idle wheelers
 
 
To tell you the truth, I used to believe that cartridges could hardly survive more than 3 years given my habit of running them at an average of 2 hours daily. The problem, I concluded, was suspension failure as the diamond showed little wear and tear under the microscope. When the system sounded bad I replaced the cartridge and curiously the sound did improve. Eventually I had 6 Kiseki Blue over a period of 15 years.  
 
This pattern continued until the CD came into play. With the second source for comparison, I began to realize that the cartridge should not be the only one to blame.  
 
Be it a lesson folks, do keep a respectable CD player at hand even if you are a die-hard analogue bigot.  
 
 
limage
11-11-30
17:25:08
回覆 (1539): Idle wheelers
I used it only for 9 years which is really a shame comparing to the rest!  
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That might be why it's still red or even pink!!! ^_^
icefox
11-11-30
17:11:04
回覆 (1541): Idle wheelers
9 years  
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I changed 3 Linn heads within 300 hours mileage, from Karma -> Troika -> Akiva. I supposed they were not even run in yet when disposed.  
 
Where is my dust bin?
dkyyu
11-11-30
16:56:11
回覆 (1540): Idle wheelers
i do have 1 Saturn-V headshell as you can see on the Acutex box should anyone wish to try.  
 
scallywag
11-11-30
16:46:50
回覆 (1539): Idle wheelers
this lot was well received while I was away - yep we now buy carts in the dozen  
 
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daiwok
11-11-30
16:12:35
回覆 (1538): Idle wheelers
 
 
Thanks for reminding me Dennis. I did not put in the Linn because I used it only for 9 years which is really a shame comparing to the rest!  
 
limage
11-11-30
16:01:44
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Dear Limage,  
 
You forgot to mention and enlist your beloved Troika. I was once told that the RED Linn Head was among your favourites. The Red is used to be my top favourite though I prefer to the black Linn head for its higher output level right now.
dkyyu
11-11-30
15:40:01
回覆 (1536): Idle wheelers
 
 
Oh yes, I've been using unipivots ever since the first generation of Formula 4s. I am the kind of bloke who is outrageously fastidious in purchase decisions and yet once committed, would turn hopelessly indolent to change………  
 
The National turntable for 34 years  
Audiocraft arm 32 years  
Kiseki Blue 28 years  
Koetsu transformer 30 years  
Maggies, 36 years  
CJ Premier One 26 years  
Ensemble CD 23 years  
99% of my LPs, 37 years  
 
Honestly I feel guilty for not paying my fair share of contribution to the audio industry to whom I ought to be deeply indebted.  
 
 
limage
11-11-30
15:23:25
回覆 (1535): Idle wheelers
Yes, I love unipivots. Why?  
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I love it for the simplicity.  
 
Megnepan and Unipivots. Your cup of tea?
bobui
11-11-30
13:00:58
回覆 (1534): Idle wheelers
 
 
The very best of gimbal bearings achieves a pretty low friction score at around 15 mg, but then you need 4 bearings altogether to allow movements in the vertical and horizontal plane. That alone translates into a friction figure 12 times higher than is the unipivot.  
 
Ball races would certainly introduce more friction since there are a lot more of moving surfaces. Knife edge comes near the unipivot in terms of friction score but then it requires additional bearings (in the case of SME for instance) for the horizontal movements.  
 
The Well Tempered uses no bearings at all and it is certainly a most ingenious design but then the hanging threads do introduce other torsional forces to affect agility in a manner that makes life difficult for the end user if he wants to get the best from this gadget. I've never used a Well Tempered although I very much want to. Its design, however, did inspire me to have the turntable suspended through heavy mono-filaments from the ceiling and guess what, it was a complete disaster! Feedback flocked in from all directions and in particular, I could hear every step from the guy who walked across the room on the upper floor.  
 
limage
11-11-30
11:55:48
回覆 (1533): Idle wheelers
 
 
This is an interesting design. What's more intriguing is that it is a unipivot at heart!  
 
Yes, I love unipivots. Why?  
 
Because it sports the lowest friction at the most critical part of the arm, typically 5 mg, which means you could move the arm with a strand of your hair at the working side. Every design has to make compromises, but when the vital part is done correctly, there would be a lot less to compromise.  
 
limage
11-11-30
10:36:53
回覆 (1532): Idle wheelers
http://www.avhub.com.au/index.php/News/Hi-Fi/radical-new-tonearm-from-nz.html
daiwok
11-11-30
04:43:41
回覆 (1531): Idle wheelers
Thanks for the information and impression. Interesting. I was toying with BMS coaxial CD too at one stage . In the end I was happy to give up the point source coherency to stick with the horn loaded Coral Beta and add the very refined Fostex T500Amk2 tweeter up top. Also tried the Yamaha 6681 CD with the smaller horn in the past and I much prefer the horn loaded Coral for the better tone and mid range texture. Different choice in the area to compromise. In my small room, I don't need 120dB+ attack or I will have tinnitus in no time j. ;)  
 
 
 
jaspert
11-11-29
18:51:28
回覆 (1531): Idler wheelers
Jasper,  
 
the MiWi horns are 75cm in width and probably 45 to 55 in height to form the elliptical shape. They look much smaller as they flare out probably 55cm on the width. The speakers look smaller than I imagine and certainly very accommodating in design and looks.
daiwok
11-11-29
17:06:05
回覆 (1530): Idle wheelers
Do you know what compression drivers he is using in his ovoid Le' Cleac'h horns and the woofers?  
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the compression drivers are BMS 4572 or 4592, the woofers are 12 inch versions of what we are using. One thing I did notice on coaxial drivers is that the treble extension is not high enough for my liking or should I say refine enough, Also the treble on the coaxial driver blocks off the compression drivers a bit, so the mid range can sound a bit lean for my taste. I have to admit that Martin Seddon was right, the mid range on the 8 inch driver is hard to beat - I am convinced, however if you want slam and attack, then the compression drivers are much more aggressive and articulate.
daiwok
11-11-29
17:03:01
回覆 (1529): Idle wheelers
Oh, the C59 Colnago! Modern design from a conservative brand? BMC la or Pinarello lor! Actually, it does look beautiful to me. Let's get one!  
 
I never really had a go with high power transistor amps. High current lower voltage, not for Lowther lor! Surely not AER la! Right?
bobui
11-11-29
01:37:56
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What a beautiful home....tastefully done  
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Cannot agree more jaspert!  
 
 
limage
11-11-28
19:19:04
回覆 (1527): Idle wheelers
What a beautiful home....tastefully done. Much respect for Miwi handiwork.  
 
Do you know what compression drivers he is using in his ovoid Le' Cleac'h horns and the woofers?
jaspert
11-11-28
18:33:50
回覆 (1534): Idle wheelers
B&W, Mark L, Krell, QUAD etc  
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don't know about the rest but Mark L is a sales man. i don't know what kind of DIY he did. may be DIY sales kit!
drwkng
11-11-28
17:10:05
回覆 (1534): Idle bike
bobui  
 
For your eyes only....................,  
 
COLNAGO C59 ITALIA 150TH !!
Popeye
11-11-28
17:02:30
回覆 (1533): Idle wheelers
The JAPs do it. The Europeans adore it. The U.S cannot live without it. The thing is DIY has always been and will continue to be a very big part of the Western culture and many of their successful businesses were built upon it. Hong Kong people know it but many still carry the strange idea that "Why bother ah? Do you not have the cash? Go and buy it la.'  
 
Some of the the most famous brands in the world of Hi Fi were mostly home DIYers at first. B&W, Mark L, Krell, QUAD etc etc. For bike, Colnago, Campagnolo......etc.  
 
Making copies and clone is a good start but it would be great to see real CHINESE inventions lor.
bobui
11-11-28
12:26:42
回覆 (1532): Idle wheelers
for those bike fanatics ..... Polo is not played on bikes ! my friends are playing this and it has turned him into a bike DIY maniac with him welding, bending, polishing and tuning in his basement !  
 
his current project ... unfinished ...  
 
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this one is outrageous !  
 
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the workshop .....  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:46:28
回覆 (1531): Idle wheelers
Happy couple listening .....  
 
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this was a familiar sound as the horns are using a Jean Michael Le'Cleac'h flare, a variation - more elliptical reduce reflection from the ceiling, however with a sloping ceiling this was not an issue. The listening session proves why one must bring along familiar software to verify the listening environment. This system can play LOUD ! I mean up to 130db ! it can be too excessive, but you are talking rock concert levels with hard hitting bass and slamm ! yes slamm, but I had heard such sound from Sir Charles Altecs before my ears and eyes were bleeding @@ - so my friend did not catch me off guard, but point taken as compression horns which were designed for PA systems, can reach volume levels which make normal speakers sound like headphones !  
 
on one particular demonstration, it was interesting. A German sampler CD from Burmester was played .... the drum demonstration was Chinese drums, and although my friend did not like it, he felt it was worth listening to as the music and attack was incredible. After 2 mins, I told my friend to stop the CD as I had the original on hand ! ^__^  
 
the original was much more pleasant, more natural, more extended, more detailed ! my friend was stunned ! yep you have been conned by remastering and manipulation from the audio company which was over exaggerating the sound to show off their gear. I did fear before playing my own CD that his system was bloody awful. The only thing we did find was a bas node where the sub was overlapping the 2 mid bass units. Not in all music, but in particular music.  
 
Overall, a well executed system, stunningly sounding and could be listen to all day and night long.  
 
With good music comes good food and I had to show my German friends what Roast Pork could taste like  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:42:51
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subwoofers built into the room !  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:30:21
回覆 (1529): Idle wheelers
the Hi Fi ...... beautiful horns and amps, and of course a beautiful Lenco  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:28:42
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:26:40
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a spot of breakfast after an evening of whiskey  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:24:36
回覆 (1526): Idle wheelers
This is truly a beautiful home that I stayed. The owner not only builds Hi Fi but also this home is built by him and his wife. One can only be jealous since he seems to have everything, big beautiful horns, a part time job making beautiful tonearms for TW AcustiK, making his own bikes, a professional career and a basement full of machinery to cope with the day to day DIY jobs ! @@  
 
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even the painting is DIY !  
 
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daiwok
11-11-28
00:22:01
回覆 (1525): Idle wheelers
only thing cheap from the Swiss these crapy Lencos and now they are also rising fast in price !  
 
daiwok
11-11-27
03:40:42
回覆 (1524): Idle wheelers
 
 
Living in Switzerland is not cheap  
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I used to visit my best friend who lives in Geneva. She told me the easiest way to calculate the exchange rate — spend Swiss Francs like you do with the HK dollar, i.e. if you spend 15 bucks for a cup of coffee in HK, you’ll have to pay 15 Swiss Francs for the same in Switzerland.  
 
Easy, isn’t it?  
 
limage
11-11-25
22:21:42
回覆 (1523): 奇蹟!
Hey I can imagine the high cost there. I was in Lucerne briefly in 1997. What a beautiful spot.  
 
You had seen Guenter's gears up close and more importantly, heard them.  
It sounds like he is doing well with his designs. May be he can bring some stuff to HK in the future.  
 
jaspert
11-11-25
22:10:06
回覆 (1522): 奇蹟!
Interesting speakers and nice tube amps.  
His old broadcast turntable is not bad too.....;)  
 
I was asking about his wonderful Dac recently but my eyes nearly popped when I got the price....:(  
 
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Jasper,  
 
Guenter's gear is not cheap ! but quality is in the KONDO League if you ask me !!! Living in Switzerland is not cheap !!! I was hit with a huge hotel bill, the cost of travel food is eye popping and the grocery stores are twice the price of Hong Kong @@ !!!  
 
My 1 hour return train journey was almost equal the price of my flight from Dusseldorf to Zurich ! @@  
 
price of McD meal is about USD 15 !  
 
daiwok
11-11-25
20:43:28
回覆 (1521): 奇蹟!
Wonderful pics David.  
 
Interesting speakers and nice tube amps.  
His old broadcast turntable is not bad too.....;)  
 
I was asking about his wonderful Dac recently but my eyes nearly popped when I got the price....:(
jaspert
11-11-25
20:28:18
回覆 (1520): 奇蹟!
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This Swiss friend lives in a beautiful place in Lucerne which sadly I did not see during the evening, but his workshop or hi fi en was beautiful. Everything you see is hand made with the very best of materials and this friend has been building for over 20 years. He has very good ears and the sound was exceptionally integrated. I felt it sounded wonderful with classic, more so than jazz and vocals but since his gear was selling so quick nothing gets enough time to run in. He has a couple of container full of tubes @@, all irons are hand wound by a local master. The drivers are 15 inch and are hand made and cost a fortune. Its a triaxial drivers with seemless integration. The crossover is predominately auto transformers, his phono has no caps but its only MM but he a special SUT being made.  
 
My wonderful friend will be visiting Hong Kong in the near future and I must provide the same hospitality with such wonderful Whiskey !  
 
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daiwok
11-11-25
20:18:42
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daiwok
11-11-25
20:07:07
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daiwok
11-11-25
20:04:56
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daiwok
11-11-25
19:57:48