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scallywag
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11-02-22
11:55:35
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| 回覆 (971): Thorens Prestige |
Wow, this is as intriguing as it is inspiring!
Save and except the unipivot, however, the other two are more of experimental than practical value. Free vertical movements are likely to be at stake given the high level of friction resulting from the use of more bearings than necessary, especially the one close to the cartridge. Tracking force cannot be consistent under these conditions, I suppose.
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limage
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11-02-21
15:34:49
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daiwok
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11-02-21
14:25:53
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daiwok
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11-02-21
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daiwok
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11-02-21
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daiwok
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11-02-21
14:23:59
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| 回覆 (966): Thorens Prestige |
Thanks for reminding me. Joachim Bung had some photos of my Thorens TD184 taken for his revision book which he is suppose to send me a copy.
Indeed this is a very good book - especially on idler wheels and the history of turntables, carts and arms of that period. |
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daiwok
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11-02-21
12:52:47
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icefox
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11-02-20
21:27:25
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daiwok
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11-02-20
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thekong
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11-02-20
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daiwok
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11-02-20
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daiwok
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11-02-20
15:43:38
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| 回覆 (964): Thorens Prestige |
daiwok,
Thanks but no thanks. I am quite happy with the ergonomic of VPI + Steam cleaning solution.
This one is way too messy. ^__^ |
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icefox
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11-02-20
15:32:46
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daiwok
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11-02-20
15:26:08
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Also, I just did a quick count, and to my horror, I have more arms than cartridges! That is just unacceptable!
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That is just shameful .................but I am no better @[email protected] |
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daiwok
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11-02-18
15:55:35
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| 回覆 (961): Thorens Prestige |
.............to my horror, I have more arms than cartridges! That is just unacceptable!
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I'm sure there are people out there who have more cartridges than LPs.
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cpsjj
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11-02-18
15:34:42
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| 回覆 (960): Thorens Prestige |
>anyone serious about vinyl playback must have a turntable that can accommodate a minimum of 3 tonearms..<
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Looks like I am not serious enough yet, must work harder now :-)
Also, I just did a quick count, and to my horror, I have more arms than cartridges! That is just unacceptable!
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thekong
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11-02-18
15:27:53
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| 回覆 (959): Thorens Prestige |
You could be right, these are the spec. for the 2 models and they are quite similar, only that the Reference can take 3 arms where the Prestige only 2; very important for diawok :-)
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absolutely ! anyone serious about vinyl playback must have a turntable that can accommodate a minimum of 3 tonearms - hence coining the phrase by Thorens as "the Reference"
having got back to civilisation - I find I have more artillery on my desk ! another 12inch arm, more LP's, some new tweeters since I blown my last set. On my US trip I picked up about 30 MONO LPs and 2 more cartridges ^__^ |
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daiwok
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11-02-18
14:01:35
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| 回覆 (958): Thorens Prestige |
This is the confidential US dealers price list for the Prestige in 1992. US$15,000 was the list price, and US$9,000 was the dealer cost
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thekong
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11-02-18
13:43:53
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| 回覆 (958): Thorens Prestige |
I really like this description in the fact sheet.
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The PRESTIGE makes use of noble materials only, including a number of Gold plated parts. A true durable realisation of the PRESTIGE.
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icefox
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11-02-18
13:40:06
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| 回覆 (957): Thorens Prestige |
>The Reference, judging by its showy look, ought to be the model for the filthy rich and the prestige, the discerning. <
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You could be right, these are the spec. for the 2 models and they are quite similar, only that the Reference can take 3 arms where the Prestige only 2; very important for diawok :-)
Reference:
Features:
THORENS belt drive
- three phase motor with clutch pulley
- electronic motor regulation
- three speeds: 33 -1/3, 45 and 78 rpm
- pitch control ± 6%
- illuminated stroboscope at the outer turntable rim
- heavy basic chassis and heavy floating chassis, both aluminum castings. The specially calculated chambers in the floating chassis are filled with grained iron for optimum damping
- vibration and shock-proof 4-point suspension with gold-plated housings. Each suspension point is individually adjustable
- bubble level
- the resonance of the floating chassis can be adjusted (1-5 Hz) for exact matching with the tone arm and cartridge combination
- specially damped turntable platter of 6.6 kg weight and 30.3 cm diameter
- new and expensive main bearing construction for the world's best rumble figure. - The high precision ground steel shaft rotates in oil bathed hard material bearings
- record stabilizer, gold-plated
- 3-tone arm platforms of various sizes
- 2 electric motor lifts (optional)
- gold-plated control boards, mounted on the main chassis
- large dust cover
- Wow and flutter according to DIN 45507: < 0.02% rumble un-weighted, measured with Rumpelmesskoppler* according to DIN A, better than 82 dB
- weight: approx. 90 kgs
- dimensions: 620x360x510 mm
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thekong
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11-02-18
13:34:14
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| 回覆 (956): Thorens Prestige |
Technically speaking then, I guess both models represented state-of-the-art masterpieces from the House of Thorens.
The Reference, judging by its showy look, ought to be the model for the filthy rich and the prestige, the discerning.
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limage
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11-02-18
12:12:41
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| 回覆 (955): Thorens Prestige |
I think the Reference was the flagship with a limited production run of around 100. A few years after that, they came up with the Prestige, which had a slightly lower price.
I still remember when the Reference came out, 阿二叔 went up to a TV program, probably歡樂今宵, to introduce it as the most expensive turntable in the world, costing around HK$70K. That was 1979!
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thekong
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11-02-17
16:37:19
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Can anyone tell me what the differences are between the Prestige and the Reference?
Both were my dream tables years ago.
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limage
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11-02-17
15:16:50
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icefox
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11-02-17
11:50:02
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| 回覆 (952): Part II article on Garrard 301 by Art Dudley |
| david, it's nice to hear that you are flying around the world to help people go through less pain and recovery time. i hope that you can patent your designs and retire early. you deserve the great food and pleasure from your friends and customers, cheers. |
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-16
18:10:56
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| 回覆 (952): Dali Salvador + 緊縛美 |
hi kris,
o.k., let me tell my friend to tie up his girlfriend whenever he listens to it. i am sure the sound would be even more orgasmic... |
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-16
17:57:07
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| 回覆 (951): Part II article on Garrard 301 by Art Dudley |
tools for liposuction?
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Far more advanced than liposuction Wesley - yesterday was a gastric sleeve using minimal invasive surgery (keyhole). However, history could be made this week as my US client is using an endoluminal / incesionless approach (no hole surgery) in New York with an all new device my company helped to create. We are already planning the next generation during my visit. |
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daiwok
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11-02-16
13:03:47
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| 回覆 (951): Dali Salvador + 緊縛美 |
back to hi-fi.
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Afraid not Wesley! The photo looks more like a piece of Dali Salvador art mixed with Kinbaku-bi (緊縛美) /Shibari (Art of Japanese Bondage). Pleasure is a funny thing, everyone gets off differently. A sex therapist once told me that many of her clients believe the "anticipation" before an orgasm can be far more exciting than the actual thing:-)
Dali Salvador le soulier de Gala
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kris
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11-02-16
11:37:24
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11-02-16
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11-02-16
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-16
08:32:50
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| 回覆 (947): Part II article on Garrard 301 by Art Dudley |
Thanks Wesley !
I really need to diet after going to Dusseldorf for a day, I slept 2 hrs while I was in London last night, then back on the plane, breakfast was surgery in looking at a lady who was BMI 40 plus, not huge by BMI standards as some are over 60 !!! but enough to put me off food ...... the surgeon then took me out for a late lunch, PORK PORK and PORK @[email protected]
back in London, been sleeping in cabs, planes and anywhere I can get some before more meetings then back on the plane to civilisation ! |
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daiwok
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11-02-16
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-16
08:30:19
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| 回覆 (946): Part II article on Garrard 301 by Art Dudley |
david,
go get some lp's at those places, cheap and early pressings. if you're flying cathay, allowance is 2 bags and 23 kgs. ea.
come over for some oatmeal when you get back.
here's a pork dish from a place in l.a. called chicken itza. it's mexican food from a certain region of mexico. this place is a food court, so fine food at an affordable price. |
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-16
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daiwok
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11-02-16
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daiwok
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11-02-16
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daiwok
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11-02-16
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Vash
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11-02-16
06:24:52
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| 回覆 (942): California Dream |
david,
with so much energy stored up, you'd better go to these places...
http://www.recordsurplusla.com/index.cfm
http://www.amoeba.com/store-locations/berkeley.html#hollywood
then have another wonderful meal... |
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BIRDHOUSE
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11-02-14
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